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Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: Blue Buffalo Dog and Cat food Really GF? Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:33 pm | |
| I had sent for a sample of this food, the ingredients sounded great from their ad, and very healthy-wise in preparation ( they don't cook their vitamins, but put in separate pellets for full nutrition). When I got the sample Jazz was very excited, her first sample in the mail! When she tried it, she about inhaled it! I would give her a small amount each night as a treat after pottying before bed. I went to buy some and really read the full ingredients, there is rye in there and barley! But they claimed to be gluten free, and advertise on line as such. So I wanted you all to be aware. When you google gluten free dog food the paid ads on the right hand side list Blue Buffalo, but beware! Check it out for yourself They circulate the ads, so click on this a few times if you don't see it first. And the top sponsered ad link is by them also Gluten Free Pet FoodBlueBuff.com Take the True Blue Test to Find a Better Food for Your Pet. Learn Now This is part of their Health Philosophy statement - Quote :
- All of our great-tasting, natural and holistic BLUETM Life Protection Formula and BLUETM Spa SelectTM recipes feature deboned chicken, lamb or fish as the first ingredient,
which means there is more real meat than any other ingredient. Plus, each recipe includes wholesome whole grains, garden vegetables and antioxidant-rich fruit—things you'd put on your own grocery list. And because the health of our dogs and cats is so important to us, we never use animal by-products, and our gluten-free recipes do not contain any artificial flavors, colors or preservatives. What's more, we never include corn, wheat or soy, as they have been known to trigger allergies. What a contradiction! To be continued............ | |
| | | Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: The Tru-Blue Promise Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:45 pm | |
| On their website pages on the right hand column they have this emblem with their 'Tru-Blue Promise"Which states: Finest Natural Ingredients No Animal by-Products No Corn, Wheat or Soy Gluten Freeyou can view that on this page right under the true blue test on the right hand side. Here are the ingredients for their Fish and sweet potato recipe, something my dog would love to death! - Quote :
- High Quality Protein
Dogs love our tasty whitefish, and it provides them with the essential amino acids they need every day. Wholesome Whole Grains Hearty whole grains like brown rice, barley and oats supply the complex carbohydrates that your dog needs for energy. Healthy Garden Veggies Whole carrots, sweet potatoes and garlic are three of the nutrient rich vegetables that your dog will get in every bite of BLUE. Almost the same as the Chicken and brown rice recipe - Quote :
- High Quality Protein
Dogs love our tasty chicken, and it provides them with the essential amino acids they need every day. Wholesome Whole Grains Hearty whole grains like brown rice, barley and oats supply the complex carbohydrates that your dog needs for energy. Healthy Garden Veggies Whole carrots, sweet potatoes and garlic are three of the nutrient rich vegetables that your dog will get in every bite of BLUE. All the ones I checked, including their organic recipe, contained barley and oats ( probably contaiminated) You can check the rest for yourself. I decided to write to them to express my disappointment. | |
| | | Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: So I sat down and wrote them a letter Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:49 pm | |
| Name: XXXXXXX Email Address:xxxxxxxxx Email Subject: Product
Message: I have tried your sample and my dog loves it. I thought because you claim to use gluten free ingredients it would be safe for me, a celiac, to feed her this. But your ingredients say otherwise. Your dog foods contain, rye (which has gluten) and barley ( which also has gluten) and uncertified oats which could be contaiminated with gluten. So how can you claim to use gluten free products? I think you meant wheat free. It is a shame though because your product otherwise seems to be about the most perfect one I've come across and would love to feed my dog.
Mrs XXXX XXXXXXXX
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| | | Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: Here are the full ingredients in there Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:53 pm | |
| This is the ingredients from the sample they sent for my baby to try. - Quote :
- Deboned Chicken, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Oatmeal, Whole Ground Barley, Chicken Meal, Rye, Rice Bran, Tomato Pomace (natural source of Lycopene), Whole Potatoes, Natural Chicken Flavor, Chicken Fat (preserved with Natural Mixed Tocopherols), Whole Carrots, Whole Sweet Potatoes, Blueberries, Cranberries, Flaxseed, Barley Grass, Dried Parsley, Alfalfa Meal, Kelp Meal, Taurine, L-Carnitine, L-Lysine, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Yucca Shidigera Extract, Green Tea Extract, Turmeric, Garlic, Sunflower Oil (natural source of Omega 6 Fatty Acids), Herring Oil (natural source of Omega 3 Fatty Acids), Fructooligosaccharides, Monooligosaccharides, Dried Chicory Root, Black Malted Barley, Oil of Rosemary, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin C, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Beta Carotene, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin (Vitamin B3), Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B5), Riboflavin (Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Thiamine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Biotin, Choline Chloride, Calcium Phosphate, Zinc Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Zinc), Iron Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Iron), Copper Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Copper), Manganese Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Manganese), Potassium Amino Acid Complex (source of Chelated Potassium), Cobalt Proteinate (source of Chelated Cobalt), Potassium Chloride, Sodium Selenite, Salt, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bacillus subtilis, Bifidobacterium thermophilum, Bifidobacterium longum, Enterococcus faecium.
I've highlighted the dangers to us in this list. | |
| | | Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: The Response Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:56 pm | |
| It took them 7 days to respond, but here it is: - Quote :
- Dear XXXXX,
Thank you for your interest in BLUE. All grains have a gluten component of the whole grain. When we say gluten free, we mean that we don’t buy or formulate with only the concentrated gluten fraction of the grain, e.g. concentrated rice gluten is made only from the hydrolyzed portions of the whole grain rice, producing a concentrated gluten ingredient that can be used as a protein supplement, replacing meat protein.
The amount of “gluten” in whole grain contributes a minimal amount of protein to the whole diet. Nevertheless, the gluten is a protein part of the grain that constitutes the germinal or reproductive part of the kernel. Geneticists have experimented with producing a gluten-free grain, but it is not been commercially practical.
Please feel free to contact me with any further questions.
Best Regards,
The Blue Buffalo Company
Is it just me or is that a run-around answer? Needless to say , I am very disappointed:cry:
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| | | Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: Re: Blue Buffalo Dog and Cat food Really GF? Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:05 pm | |
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| | | Yentl
Number of posts : 59 Age : 68 Registration date : 2007-10-08
| Subject: Re: Blue Buffalo Dog and Cat food Really GF? Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:12 pm | |
| Hey, Kudos on the new forum, the pets are usually forgotten. I appreciate all the info on this food, and your time to post it all. I am currently looking for other ways to eradicate gluten from my home. good to know! | |
| | | Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: Re: Blue Buffalo Dog and Cat food Really GF? Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:30 pm | |
| Hi Yentl! Good to see you around, I'd though you'd deserted us. Good to see you back. This is an important subject, not sure why I neglected it for so long! We learn and grow!
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| | | HadassahSukkot
Number of posts : 254 Location : Germany How long since diagnosed? : a long while now Registration date : 2007-10-11
| Subject: Re: Blue Buffalo Dog and Cat food Really GF? Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:26 am | |
| That would quantify as a non answer. I'd send them one of the formulated from Celiac.com information sheets on what comprises gluten from a medical standpoint, and give them contact information for the celiac societies if they wish to keep saying it's a gluten free food. It cannot quantify as gluten free! - Quote :
The legal definition of the phrase "gluten-free" varies from country to country. Current research suggests that for persons with celiac disease the maximum safe level of gluten in a finished product is probably less than 0.02% (200 parts per million) and possibly as little as 0.002% (20 parts per million).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten_freeThat would royally tick me off if I had ordered it and it got to me and I saw it had barley, rye and malt to boot! I can't so much as touch the food that has gluten in it! While there is "gluten" in gluten free foods (rice gluten, lupine gluten.. etc) those are not 'gluten' like items we cannot eat. it's chemical makeup is completely different. Tells me someone in their little formula lab needs to go back to the books | |
| | | Bete'avon! Admin
Number of posts : 578 Location : Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA How long since diagnosed? : 4 years misdiagnosed 15 years Vegitarian : Partial Registration date : 2007-10-02
| Subject: Re: Blue Buffalo Dog and Cat food Really GF? Wed Mar 12, 2008 5:47 pm | |
| Yes , I agree, but maybe the labeling criteria for animal food isn't the same as for people food? I am not up to date on the particulars. Maybe they can legally advertise it as such. | |
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